Happy Easter… Let the Pandering Begin!
In providential moments like these the potency of grief is swallowed up and eclipsed by purpose as we see the hand of God at work.
This morning I received news that 3 weeks ago one of my heroes, Charles Capps, had gone home to be with the Lord at the age of 80. I was shocked as I considered the loss and troubled that I didn’t know about this before now. I was about to lament the fact that I must have been so wrapped up with what God was doing in MY Church that I couldn’t look up or take time to notice such things when I realized the prophetic nature of what God had me invested in.
Right out of the gate, from the moment I was born again, the wisdom of Charles Capps has had a formative influence on my life. From his teachings on evangelism, faith and the creative power of the tongue, there’s no questioning that this man was truly an “Apostle of Confession.” Throughout the years, I have gleaned from his wisdom and grown from his practical “how-to” know-how.
At Encounter Christ Church, we do many books studies. As a Pastor for 10 years, I have always considered it my responsibility to introduce my parishioners to ministers who have had an eternal impact on my life, yet strangely enough I had never introduced them to Charles Capps. This was a wrong that had to be righted and that’s why I was so relieved when in the middle of February, I felt compelled by the Holy Spirit to get Charles Capps books and CDs into the hands of every member of my congregation.
I felt an urgency to get the revelation of confession that God used Charles Capps to communicate back to the forefront and we declared the month of March to be, “The Month of Confession.” By February 16th we were in talks with Charles Capps ministry to order his best-selling book, “The Tongue a Creative Force” and his CD series, “Calling Things That Are Not…” in bulk. After 10 years I was compelled to get this into people’s hands and to do it NOW! Why? God knew that this mantle was about to be released.
On Friday, February 21, 2014 Charles Capps told his wife Peggy that he would be “going home” on Sunday. He went to bed on Saturday night and woke up in Heaven about 5:30 Sunday morning, February 23, 2014. This is a man who lived what he preached even in his final moments on this earth.
My life will never be the same because of this general of the faith and I know that the transforming power of his practical teachings will continue to positively affect the lives of millions. I am more convinced than ever that it’s time for the Body of Christ to get back to the basics. In all honesty, each and every one of us could admit that we’ve gotten lazy when it comes to our confession and that we have neglected this revelation.
In honor of this great man of faith let’s all declare the month of March, “The Month of Confession.” Study it in the Word, preach about it in your churches and share it with your friends. There’s a double portion just waiting for those who are willing to receive it by faith.
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Wow! I have to say that Mr.Capps was one of the best preachers I’ve ever had the honer to hear. I’m just finding out about his blessed homecoming. I’m sure his intrest to heaven was met with open arms and a fatted calf already waiting him. I only wish I could leave that kind of legacy behind when I go home. He was truley a friend to the Father and to the son. We all miss you sir. And I love you and the work you did for God. See you soon…bye
P.s.
Please save me a seat at the dinner table next to you , just across from my friend Jesus.
I have always loved and appreciated the ministry of Charles Capps. He is so easy to understand. With his passing, , a great man of faith has gone on. Let’s make sure we keep him alive !
I just heard of the passing of Charles Capp!s! I do not know how I did not hear of this! He went home to be with the Lord within months of my beloved mother. I still receive literature and support the ministry and I don’t recall any notice of his passing. I will never forget the first time I heard him on the radio teaching on “ calling those things that be not as though they were” I teaching changed my life. And I share it everywhere I go!!!!!
“It’s the first rung on the latter. You will get what you say.” Charles Capps would use that phrase. What a mighty man of valor he was. My life and my whole family and friends lives will never be the same again after listening to Charles Capps teaching. We will continue to teach others what we have learned that is the Power of Your Words. He truly was a General in the Kingdom.
Tell that to the persecuted
christians around the globe that are being slaughtered daily, beheaded, tortured, property confiscated, kidnapped, burned alive, try telling them they can be freed from all this if they just confess all the right things, that’s westernized teaching it is not supported in scripture..the apostle Paul did not teach the power was in your tongue to create your destiny, or you can have whatever you say, God told him my grace is sufficient for you not your confessions… we need to stick to what the word of God says and confirm scripture with scripture…teaching people they can choose when to die, stop all sickness and diesease, bring wealth just by confessing is unbibical and dangerous, and crippling the body of Christ
.. …there is only one Creator and He is sovereign.
Michelle from December 27, 2018…
All his teachings are backed by scripture, I think you are missing something here. Study the Bible and what the scriptures mean closer. Ask the Holy Spirit to open your eyes and ears to see and hear His message with clarity. I say this with love and best intentions.
May the Lord bless you and keep you safe.
Dear Elodie,
satan used scripture…we must rightly divide the scripture…scripture will confirm scripture…know your context, cross reference scripture…and by all means use the common sense that God gave man as well…make sure when you ask the Holy Spirit to teach you, you are actually listening to the Holy Spirit!! Many people say the Holy Spirit told them, but its in opposition to scripture, The Holy Spirit will not go against scripture, many false teachers say God said or the Holy Spirit showed them…we must tread very carefully in this area, we have an enemy who knows scripture from genesis to revelation and will twist it to deceive the body of Christ and so much more as the day of our Lord approaches, we must be like the Bereans, study the scriptures. and see if it be so…please take your own advice and I say this with all due respect.
best regards
Dear Elodie,
satan used scripture…we must rightly divide the scripture…scripture will confirm scripture…know your context, cross reference scripture…and by all means use the common sense that God gave man as well…make sure when you ask the Holy Spirit to teach you, you are actually listening to the Holy Spirit!! Many people say the Holy Spirit told them, but its in opposition to scripture, The Holy Spirit will not go against scripture, many false teachers say God said or the Holy Spirit showed them…we must tread very carefully in this area, we have an enemy who knows scripture from genesis to revelation and will twist it to deceive the body of Christ and so much more as the day of our Lord approaches, we must be like the Bereans, study the scriptures. and see if it be so…please take your own advice and I say this with all due respect.
best regards
Michelle, Brother Charles studied the scriptures more than the Bereans, and so have I for the past 39 years. If there is any area that you think is wrong then provide an actual quote that the person said and then provide 2 or more in context scriptures that prove that the person quoted crosswise or against the Spirit of the Word. I used to have a twisted idea of who God was and who we are and the Righteousness of God but by being a consistent doer of the Word and hungering after Righteousness and chasing God for the pureness of Truth, Jesus set me free. I have found that Charles Capps had many Revelations directly from Heaven that most of God’s children have failed to see, and to their own destruction they have warred against these Truths. Michelle, the false assumptions about God and His Word have been around for years. Even 39 years ago, the Holy Spirit and the in context scriptures, interpreted by scriptures and then confirmed by signs following, took me away from and set me free from all the false assumptions that you have presented. If you want to know all the scriptures that concretely refute all of your false assumptions then please feel free to contact me and I will gladly share with you, what Jesus shared with me and you too will get the same glorious signs and wonders and confirmations and miracles that Jesus was so eager to give me. Remember if God won’t confirm what you preach with signs following, then you are not preaching what He wants you to preach.
Dear Michelle
Yes. Absolutely. God is a Sovereign God. He is so Sovereign that it is IMPOSSIBLE for Him to lie. This is the solid foundation that supports ALL the Revelation and Truth that God revealed to brother Capps. God makes Sovereign Promises and you either “willingly” or “ignorantly” choose to believe them and act upon them or choose “willingly” or “ignorantly” not to to. God’s people perish from a lack of knowledge. Not because He is choosing for them to be beheaded. The earth is loaded with testimonies, from Christians who were facing death and who trusted God for a way of escape, and who lived to testify of such a miracle. Those who were ignorant about how to trust God for their natural life, took an early departure to Heaven, if they knew how to trust God for their eternal life. But, don’t you dare blame God for this mistreatment of these baby Saints around the globe.
Dear Michelle
Brother Capps taught directly from the scriptures that were supported by the rest of the scriptures. He taught on the laws and principles of faith which are universal. There is absolutely nothing “westernized” about these laws. They work for those who believe them and they work in reverse for those who don’t believe them. They are universal laws that work always. Like the law of gravity. You have applied a wrong understanding of what the Sovereignty of God is, and this has distracted and prevented you away from understanding these universal laws.
Dear Michelle
The power of life and death is in your tongue. Choose life that you and your seed may live.
Dear Michelle
Jesus said (do you remember that Jesus is Head over Paul) that if you believe that every Word that you say will come to pass then you will have what you say. Jesus said this, yet you mock brother Capps for saying what Jesus said. Stick to what the Word says and you won’t find much wrong in what brother Capps taught.
Jim Davies, slow your roll..I suggest a lesson in history is most needful for you, start with William Tyndale, God has to remove the veil from your eyes by the Holy Spirit, I will be asking the LORD to set you free…and as far as confessing and creating your own destiny, good luck with that, scripture does not support it.
best regards
Michelle
Jim Davies I never blamed GOD but I do blame people like Charles Caps who deceive people and twist scripture to fit there agenda.
Jim Davies, Please buy yourself “Foxes Book of Martyrs”
and read it and weep in repentance before the LORD, and ” baby saints” they had more faith in GOD in their big toe than Charles Capps had in his whole body, reason I say this is because Charles Capps taught faith is a force, which by the way is found nowhere in scripture.
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16
Now faith is the assurance (substance) of things hoped for, the conviction (evidence)of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1
The word translated “substance” comes from the Greek hupostasis which means “a placing or setting under, a substructure or foundation.” This word appears elsewhere in the New Testament as “confident” or “confidence” (2 Corinthians 9:4; 11:17; Hebrews 3:14).
*And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
*For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
*And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
*Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
Faith is simply trust.
Jim Davies be very careful of people who claim revelations from heaven, the bible is our safety net from false doctrine, stick to the revelations already revealed in scripture. We are warned against adding or taking away from what the word of GOD truly says, and its not limited to the book of revelation.
I have compassion on you and others who follow charles capps false teaching, I can say from experience I used to have charles capps books and tapes along with a host of other men and womens, false teaching, ? my heart is very heavy for you and others..when I really started to read scripture in context Jim Davies, comparing what they ( charles capps) were saying the scriptures meant, to what the scripture was actually saying, along with searching other scriptures , word study in greek and hebrew
along with prayers of other saints for me, and the mercy of GOD, I began to see the out right blasphemy of these teachings, exalting man and diminishing the providence and sovereignty of GOD, I had to repent and I pray one day you will too.
Isaiah 45:5
“I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is
no God beside me”
Proverbs 21:1
The king’s heart is a waterway in the hand of the LORD; He directs it where He pleases
Proverbs 16:9
A man’s heart plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.
Only GOD Himself, Jim Davies, is ultimately in control of all of our destiny’s not our tongue
study what ” Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof”
really means in scripture, study it for yourself, don’t go by what someone else says your life depends on it.
Godspeed and
God Bless You
Dear Michelle
Brother Charles did not lead me into any doctrines or ideas. Yes God used brother Charles to confirm many of the things that the Holy Spirit taught me from the scriptures. The difference between you and me, is that I followed Jesus and did and obeyed what Jesus said. You followed Charles and failed because you did not gain the power of the Holy Ghost that comes from obeying Jesus(the Scriptures). Jesus taught me faith. I obey Jesus and the laws of faith work for me exactly the way that Jesus said they would. Bitterness against the truth has disqualified you from being used by God to do greater works than Jesus. If you don’t repent, you will soon be pushing daisies while the obedient children will still be doing greater works than Jesus, bringing Glory to God. (SMH. It is still so hard to believe that humans would rather believe their dumb religious doctrines [that will kill them] instead of believing and obeying God’s Word that sets them free from sickness, poverty, unbelief, and a dull powerless life). God’s Word is true unto life and victory and freedom. Religion is bondange unto death. Choose life before it is too late.
Michelle.
Obviously, you still don’t know what faith is. Saying that someone who had great love and zeal for God to die had more faith in their toe shows you don’t understand faith, nor understand authority. Martyrs have zero faith in God delivering them from their executioner. They have love for God, to trust that if they die they will be with Jesus. If you don’t have that then you probably are not even born again. True martyrs are not going to glorify God and punish the devil over a 90 year life span and God uses their open love for Jesus to inspire others to believe in Jesus in a one time event. The Bible says that they who know their God will do great exploits. (Plural, not a one time event). If you are called to be a martyr then just shut up and do it. But if you are called to cast out devils and torment satan and bring joy to God then you better learn more about faith and authority and start doing it and seeing miracle after miracle happen from your lips and hands. Praise God. To God be the Glory.
Michelle
You prove my point. William Tyndale? Foxes book of martyrs? I obey Jesus. I obey my Father. I obey the Holy Spirit. I obey scripture interpreted by scripture and you want to set me free by the opinions of men? This my point is proven. You follow men rather than Jesus. And no you are not, and will never be, my enemy for telling me the truth. It’s just that “your” so called truth, is way too weak to shake the foundation of the scriptures confirmed by other scripture, proved out by obeying scripture, along with watching God confirm His Word with signs and miracles following. If you want to be right in this issue, go to Father God and ask Him to change and rewrite His Word and quit confirming it in the lives of those who are obeying it.
Michelle.
Faith is trust. But a trust that obeys. God rewards those who diligently seek Him. Not those who sit back doing nothing. Jesus told us to cast out devils, lays hands on the sick, raise the dead. If a person has not spent enough time with Jesus to start doing these things, then their faith or trust is not ready to step out of the boat. If, when you read, a hard to perform miracle, in the Bible, but then hear the Holy Spirit quote scripture to you, such as “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”, then your faith is developed and ready to support you in that miracle. Sadly, many have religiously changed or ignored the miracle parts of the Bible to fit their unbelief and give them an excuse why they are not doing the greater works than Jesus, that Jesus said they would do. Everyone’s faith is growing and developing but some have shipwrecked their faith with doctrines of devils.
Michelle
You will have a very difficult time understanding much about faith until you get a more clear understanding of what the sovereignty of God is. I believe that doctrines of devils have circulated in the church about the sovereignty of God and has interfered with God’s children to understand the rest of God’s covenant. Sovereignty of God does not mean that God is allowed to lie or that God is allowed to give out a better new birth to you than to me or that God is allowed to violate the laws of faith for you and not for me. God Never Changes. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever.
Oh Jim Davies, lol we will all be pushing up daisies until the LORD returns, but it will be HIS call the day that happens not yours, I see you are as the pharisees, and saducees, they thought they knew more than CHRIST, maybe if you humbled yourself and sought the LORD the truth would be revealed to you , because its obvious by your own admission you embrace the same blasphemous teachings charles capps embraced that you say nobody taught you, you learned on your own.
“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” Jim Davies you found charles capps to confirm your false teaching…you defend him vehemently when you should defend GODS word with that much passion…the bible says to try every spirit to see if its of GOD, you try the spirits by the WORD OF GOD, not your own imagination..
you boast in yourself you have signs and healings…so do witches and warlocks…false prophets and false teachers, those are NOT fool proof signs of GODS hand, satan appears as an angel of light! You and charles capps twist scripture to try to confirm your teachings are from GOD…I pray GOD will remove the veil from your eyes, but I also know sometimes HE does not because of the arrogance and hardness of our hearts and the refusal to give GOD all the glory,
so HE allows us to go our merry way, the blind leading the blind, believing a lie…GOD says HE will NOT share HIS glory with another…repent Jim Davies before you take the dirt nap…
and may the body of CHRIST proclaim these words…Galatians 6:14″ But far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world”.
GOD Bless
Michelle
Jim Davies,
remember the words of CHRIST “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name DRIVE OUT DEMONS and in YOUR NAME PERFORM MANY MIRACLES ?’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
signs and wonders Jim Davies is NOT a badge of GODS approval smh.
Matthew 7:22-23
Be very careful twisting GODS WORDS and taking it out of context..deceiving yourself, and causing others to be deceived.
Read Proverbs 16:9 Jim Davies and tell me whos really in control of our destiny’s?
“A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps” Jeremiah 23:32
“Indeed,” declares the LORD, “I am against those who prophesy false dreams they tell to lead My people astray with their reckless lies. It was not I who sent or commanded them, and they are of no benefit at all to these people, declares the LORD “Proverbs 19:21
“There are many devices in a man’s heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand”.Lamentations 3:37 “Who has spoken and it came to pass, unless the Lord has ordained it?”
Man is not in control GOD is.
if charles capps (and you) have that much power and faith, why did his wife get cancer and receive medical treatment, why didnt charles capps just command it to be gone, or his poor wife who suffered with the cancer ( thank God He gave doctors) since faith is a universal law like gravity u said, it should work for everybody…I dont have to believe in gravity or have faith in gravity to work, it works whether I do or dont…so according to your flawed teaching if we go by what you teach, my healing should be automatic! this is very sad and dangerous teaching, teaching people healing is for everyone if they only apply the law of faith…I can list so many of these faith healers and confess what you want preachers, and power of the tongue scripture quoters who died from sicknesses, or sought medical treatment, they preach this heresey and when sickness comes knocking they can’t heal themselves,
here are just a few to think about Jim Davies
Jan Crouch – STROKE died
W.R. Shambach- heart attach died
Paul Crouch – heart disease died
Betty Price- Cancer treated
Joyce Meyers breast cancer treated
Rod Parsley – Cancer treated
Miles Monroe -burned to death in plane crash
Kenneth Hagin Stroke died
I don’t think the so called “father of faith” wanted to fall over at the breakfast table from a stroke or seizure and then lay in a coma for five days…when according to the universal law of faith you false teachers adhere to he should not have been sick in the first place…and if you have that much power in your tongue why not live to 120! not one of them have lived to be 120 years old there have been documented people who lived to 123, they never confessed a thing Moses.eyes were not dim, ( no laser surgery) strong and lived to a 120 he didn’t confess anything…why not just confess you will never die and live till JESUS returns, why hasn’t any of them reached that level of faith…I hear by confession you can control nature, why didnt one of them fly over in their fancy private jet and rebuke the worst fire in the history of california and save lives.. oh I forgot, because you can’t!!! Only GOD determines our end.
This is just hard to understand why a person would not want to believe in a good and loving God. I have had bad things happen to me, but I still believe in the goodness and kindness of God and that He wants only the best for me. I will keep believing in His mercy and grace to me. I cannot believe for someone else, but why would they want to destroy my faith in a kind and loving God who wants only the best for me. He is my Father and He cares for me even more than I can care for my only son. Life is precious and a gift from God. Let us live out that gift to be a blessing to others.
God is good!
Barbara F.
Michelle. Your belief against the Goodness of God is not from God. God sacrificed His own son that you could go free from the sickness and disease of satan. Yet you get some warped satisfaction in correcting people who have fellowshipped with the Father and who have all of their lives have purposed to believe exactly what God believes and cling to that. There were people 40 years ago, saying the same things as you, trying to talk me out of my faith. The spirit of death attacked both me and the others trying to talk me out of my faith. The spirit of death attacked me four different times, and each time God’s Word and His Promises held true and satan had to flee. For those who were trying to talk me out of my faith, the spirit of death only got to attack them once. They died just like the Word said they would. My people perish for a lack of knowledge. Don’t judge a person because they got attacked and chose treatment or chose to go to Heaven. Free will and what a person is confident with (what will work for them) has everything to do with it. God’s Word is 100% true even if Michelle denies the promises in her own life. It is impossible for God to lie. All Scripture is inspired by God. God and His Word are one in the same. I stand on what God has said, whether satan and his offended children like it or not.
Michelle. It would be quite laughable what you say if it were not so sad for you. With the scriptures, in their proper context and rightly divided and confirmed by other in context scriptures, the Holy Spirit has already easily exposed every single lie you spoke. The religious unbelief that you so easily have fallen for, was used against me 40 years ago. The Father exposed that stupid unbelief 40 years ago and gave me in context scripture upon scripture to slam satan’s mouth shut 40 years ago and not convince me to follow the pathway of a loser. The scriptures easily chop down every single lie you have said. I followed and used the Word to victory. You followed and used the Word to justify your own failure. And then you use other people’s struggles (and your own) to come to wrong conclusion that what Jesus taught must me wrong. Jesus taught correctly. Mark 11:23 is for real.
Michelle. God is in control has a different meaning to a Holy Spirit led child of God then it does to you. God lives huge in me. When He is roaring like a lion and destroying the works of satan, (sickness, disease, poverty, death, unbelief, fear) from within my innermost being, (flowing like rivers of living water) then yes God is in control. And satan is not. But while you sit back and let all of God’s enemies beat you up, satan is in control and not God. You are the deciding witness of who is in control. For me God is in control and satan is getting bruised and busted up. Who is getting bruised in your life. Satan or you?
Barbara Ferguson, let me first just say I never once said GOD was not good, and loving, kind, merciful or gracious, that’s a lying spirit, because if you read ALL my comments you would have known I never said that…I said GOD is sovereign over ALL…and in control of everything..”HOLY IS HIS NAME”, and HE shares HIS glory with no other, if you took those statements as meaning GOD is not good
you are sadly mistaken. We are called as christians to warn the brethern of false teaching that would exalt man Barbara in stead of GOD, if you took that as someone trying to destroy your faith, once again that’s a lying spirit…and you were mistaken.
Ephesians 1:11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of HIS WILL.
Psalm 115:3 Our God is in the heavens; he does all that HE PLEASES.
Proverbs 16:4 The LORD has made EVERYTHING for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.
Isaiah 45: 6-7 That people may know, from the rising of the sun and from the west, that there is NONE besides me; I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things.
Psalm 22:28
For kingship belongs to the Lord, and HE RULES over the nations.
Job 12:10 In his hand is the LIFE of every living thing and the BREATH of all mankind.
Proverbs 21:1 The king’s heart is a stream of water in the HAND of the LORD; he turns it wherever HE wills.
1Chronicles 29:11-12 Yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, and you are EXALTED as head ABOVE ALL. Both riches and honor come from you, and YOU RULE OVER ALL. In YOUR hand are power and might, and in YOUR hand it is to make great and to give strength to all.
Yes Barbara GOD loves you and is everything you said HE is, and I believe the same as well…but, He doesn’t want you to be deceived…and that you can control your own destiny, choose when to die, etc…Moses was loved by GOD, called GODS friend, did signs and wonders, beheld GODS glory, but GOD told Moses when he was going to die, not the other way around, Hezekiah prayed and ask GOD to extend his life because earlier GOD told Hezekiah to set his house in order he was going to die, but GOD still choose the day…please read ” Proverbs 18:21″Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits” in its context Barbara, and do a word study, then you will understand
exactly what was stated.
GOD bless you Barbara
Job 14:5 “A person’s days are determined; you have decreed the number of his months and have set limits he cannot exceed”
Michelle
Jim Davies I see you were offended by what I said, but its the truth, and the truth hurts…GODS word is sharper than a two edged sword…He is the stone that makes people stumble, the rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they do not obey God’s word.
GOD is exalted in my life, is HE in yours ,or is it you?
GOD bless
Michelle
Michelle You and satan may see me as offended but God and I see it differently.
Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law and nothing shall offend them.
After 40 straight years of being in love with God’s Holy Word and obeying and doing it, God’s Word holds true. Nothing offends me.
If you want to claim that God is exalted in your life, have the common courtesy to believe and obey His Word. The New Covenant makes many amazing claims about who this brand new born again creation is, and what God has created him to do, but you talk like someone who does not obey and believe anything that God said about this new creation. 90% of your quotes come from the Old Covenant, where man was fallen and was not a child of God. I love the Old Covenant scriptures. I love the whole Bible. But you have made the fatal mistake of trying to understand the whole Bible with an Old Covenant mentality. First learn and obey the New Covenant, then you see clearly and rightly divide the Old Covenant. You are a perfect example of who Peter wrote about.
2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Michelle it is “you”, the one who “we” are commanded to rebuke of false doctrine. It is YOU MICHELLE who does not believe and obey the New Covenant revelation that Paul gave us, which causes you to use the Old Covenant verses in a false manner bringing false doctrine on the body of Christ.
Every single scripture that you or anyone else quotes, much come in line with the New Covenant revelation that Paul gave us, or else it is false doctrine. Every, and I mean “EVERY” single scripture that you have used, undermines and cuts down the very solid foundation of what God revealed to His Church in the New Covenant as sound doctrine. You need to get back your ability to debate scripture. As long as you insist that you are right you will remain hopelessly deceived, unreachable even by the wisest, most anointed of God’s Children on the earth. If we were face to face, it would be easy to open our Bibles and show you how obvious your comments are going against (crosswise) of what the New Covenant teaches about who we are and who God is in us and what we can do because of Him. You are still trying to serve God from the letter of the law which makes you puffed up in your own mind, thinking you know better than everyone else, while God has a new creation that obeys and believes in that new creation and fellowships with Him and obeys Him from newness of spirit. Michelle, the Bible is a completely different book to me then it is to you. It is alive to me and easily obeyed and easily coming to pass in my life. This is life with my Heavenly Father in the newness of life that the new birth provides. But be honest, Michelle. The Bible is not that way to you. Most people who have this close relationship with the Father, will just simply pray for you, that you will get what they have also. If you were honest, then face to face, the scriptures will easily prove God to be true and you to be a liar. But as long as you hide behind your computer, and won’t debate truth, then you go ahead and continue to believe that you are the one who is set free and all of us who are enjoying our Heavenly Father, that we are the deceived ones.
Jim Davies so let me get this straight, the scriptures that I quoted from the bible that exalt who GOD is whether new testament or old testament your saying is not backed by the new testament, you really are deceived.
Jim Davies with deep respect I will be praying for you, 40 years is a long time.
Respectfully Michelle
Jude 21-25
Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. Be merciful to those who doubt; snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear–hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy–to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
Michelle God’s covenant dealings with us, (His new creation) is far different than His covenant dealings with David. Your use of scripture makes it plain that you have overlooked this vital truth. Deception is caused because you keep insisting that everyone else is wrong except you.
Michelle. Of course, the spirit of pride, would lead you to quote Jude 21 without quoting Jude 19 and 20.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
There are two type of people listed here in Jude. 1)His Beloved who following the order of verse 20. 2)the deceived, backslidden of verse 19 who have pulled away from being an active member of God’s church (separated themself) who are led by their senses (eyes,ears, carnal mind) and are not being built up by the Spirit.
Let’s not concentrate on being number 2 (because satan wishes that both you and I would fall into being number 2) but let us judge ourselves to see if we have fallen into being number 2 because we failed to obey the instruction for walking as number 1.
Simply put. Read verse 19 and 20 again. Obey verse 20 to prevent becoming verse 19.
Praying in the Holy Spirit is praying in tongues. How do we know that? God said so in 1Cor 14:4 He that prays in an unknown tongue edifies (builds up) himself. And 1Cor 14:2 says that speaking in tongues is speaking in the spirit. As does 1Cor 14:14 and Eph 6:18 lists as part of our armour us praying in the Spirit. (praying in tongues edifies and builds us up and makes us more mindful of the spirit.)
Paul said, in 1Cor 14:18 That when he was not in the church that he spoke in the Spirit more than you all. (This is how Paul stayed in love and stayed built up. He was obeying Jude 20 all the time)
Praying in tongues, more than everyone else, is going to keep us in love and keep building us up in the Spirit and keep us from separating ourselves from the church and following the Bible through our carnal senses rather than following it through the Holy Ghost.
Michelle. I trust that you are currently obeying verse 20 by praying in tongues, more than most, and then taking that power into the church, as opposed to not praying in tongues and having become carnal or sensual. Pride causes people to disobey the scripture, then to twist the scripture to justify their disobedience rather than making a simple adjustment to be obedient to God.
May God assist you in being honest to yourself.
PS if you sincerely do pray for me, it will be good for you. In order for any of your prayers to have any Godly or positive effect on anyone else, God is required to take the beam out of our own eye so that we can see clearly how to take the speck out of our brother’s eye. So a sincere dedicated prayer life for others, will necessitate God first removing deception from the person doing the praying. So I hope you are a doer and not a blowhard talker. I hope you sincerely dedicate yourself to pray for me until I get free like you. My relationship, with my Father and my Lord, that leads me to sincerely obey Him and allow Him to use me for mighty miracles, evidently needs to be destroyed by you, so that I can be free like you.
God Bless you in your Holy Spirit led endeavors.
Michelle
In 1983 my wife left me. God told me that He would restore my marriage. I believed what God told me. But it did not go the way that I wanted it to go. In 1986 she divorced me. In 1987 I saw a horse and buggy wedding go by my workplace with the bride being my wife, being another man. I was devastated and took my wedding ring off, hung my head, fell to the floor and declared that it was over. God spoke to me and said that it wasn’t over. He promised to restore my marriage, if I would believe. People, including my anointed Pastor, told me that it was impossible for God to restore my marriage, seeing that my wife was married to someone else. Yet God did not lie to me. It will be restored. After 7 1/2 years of no contact with my wife, and zero physical contact with any woman, I sought God to look for a new wife. After talking this over, with the Lord, I came away fully persuaded that God had restored my marriage and I needed to believe it enough to act like it and praise Him for it. So I did and 30 days later, the wife who had avoided me for 7 1/2 and who was married to another man, called me for the first time and told me that God told her that she was in adultery and needed to divorce the man she was with and return to me, her rightful husband given to her by God. I left out tons of details of all the mighty things God did along the way to keep this short. But God is good. God talks to me and I talk to Him. Is it possible, Michelle that I am not deceived but that I have a true relationship with my Father that not many have experienced or understand? If you knew me Michelle. You would love me and would be able to see up close my relationship with my Lord Jesus and my Heavenly Father. You would see my skills in the Bible (wisdom) and how the Father and I partner with each other to get things done for the Kingdom of God, here on the earth. Surely you are a good person and can see that what I have with the Father is more important than having the same doctrine as you. If there any things that we can agree on, then we can work together to help each other be exactly like Jesus and do the same miracles that He did and do greater works than what He did because He said that we would do so. If we don’t agree on anything, then we have different eternal homes. One in Heaven and another in Hell. I am fully persuaded in God’s Love for me and His work in me and His Holy work on the cross and His precious blood shed for me. I have dedicated my entire life to know him and obey Him. I believe the scriptures support me 100% in everything that I say or do. I believe God gives me confirmation and witness when I am on the right path and conviction and rebuke if I am off course. Michelle, I respect your zeal. But in order for you to correct me, you are going to have correction from my Father and not correction from the devil. The devil tried to correct me, 40 years ago and the Father gave me the proper truth and exposed the false correction of the devil. So, Michelle, if your correction was something new, that the Father had not already exposed as misuse of scripture, I would submit myself to you and let you get me straightened out. When someone uses scripture incorrectly, around me, immediately the Holy Spirit, in me, starts quoting incontext scripture upon scripture to expose that they are using scripture incorrectly. I pray in tongues a lot and stay very sensitive and tender to the Holy Ghost. God Bless you.
To both Michelle M. and Jim Davies,
I just finished reading the dialogue between the two of you, and I enjoyed it immensely. Thank you.
Having said that, I do not see any contradiction in Michelle’s reasoning and conclude that she has, to this point,
won the debate.
Let me explain in clear and concise terms:
Jim says: “the laws and principles of faith which are universal …They work for those who believe them and they work in reverse for those who don’t believe them. They are universal laws that work always, like the law of gravity.” Jim here is referencing “HIS OWN FAITH”‘, a faith which ORIGINATES within himself similar to a “force or power” which GOD has SHOWN TO HIM that he PREVIOUSLY did not know he possessed. Principles which HE MAY ACTUATE. PRINCIPLES which are as UNIVERSAL as the Law of gravity. Principles which can be EMPOWERED BY HIM “through faith” because they have been CREATED AND INSTITUTED as “Universal laws/principles in the very fabric of GOD’S creation by GOD Himself; so much so, that IF a person does not believe in them, they WORK IN REVERSE. Similar to a man who leaps from a building in DISBELIEF, only to learn by EXPERIENCE that The Law of Gravity worked IN REVERSE to his own demise.
Hmmmmmm… do you see the problem here?
Jim REMOVES HIMSELF from being just another man; from being a “contingent, dependent and derived being” to a BEING
that is “noncontingent, independent and underived” and therefore removes himself from the realm of mere CREATURES created in the image of GOD, to a FORM OF BEING who has transcended mere humanity and taken to himself those ATTRIBUTES OF GOD reserved to HIM ALONE. He has become “as a god” who can nullify the PROVIDENCE OF GOD and reduce GOD to the place of CONTINGENCY AND DEPENDENCE.
Simply put:
Jim cannot be Jim, and not Jim, at the same time and in the same relationship. That is, he CANNOT BE both “a man” and not “a man” at the same time, and in the same relationship UNLESS we ( I mean Michelle M.) allow him the liberty of introducing
into this discussion “absurdity, irrationality, illogic and pure FANTASY.”
I hope this helps to REINFORCE what Michelle M. has said ALREADY in much more simple terms.
I also hope that this may help Jim to realize that the teaching, of which he credits Charles Capps’ use of Scripture, to come
to the realization that HE HAS BEEN DUPED.
Thank you.
Charlie Wax, thankyou!!! finally someone gets what I have been trying to convey all along,
Praise GODS Holy Name!!!
Michelle
You misunderstood what I was saying, and someone comes and reads many, many sound scriptures and scriptural testimonies and the only thing they want to confirm is the one thing that you misunderstood. Hey Charlie, why not attack the scriptures I quoted, including the many that I deliberately left no address for, to see if Michelle even paid any attention to the promises of God or if she was just wrapped up in herself?
Anyway, the law of gravity can be superceded when you apply contrary laws. Of course when 2 people jump off a building both go straight down, unless one has a jet pack on. When I say that the laws and principals of faith are universal, don’t read anything into that other than we ALL reap what we sow. Jesus said, (remember Jesus) that “IF” you believe (not mental ascent) that those things that you say (every word that comes out of your mouth) will come to pass, then you will have what you say. Jesus said this. Not Charles Capps. I read it in the Bible. I studied it from the Bible. I obeyed it from the Bible. And Jesus, from the Bible proved to me that He meant what said and said what He meant when He spoke this. We are ALL subject to what Jesus said in Mark 11:23. I know what loose lips most people have and most people do not come anywhere close to believing that every word that they say will come pass. Most people have had a bit of confidence that if they say something bad about themself that the bad thing will happen. The Bible says that from the abundance or overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. Until a person comes to the place where their heart has only been feeding on God’s Word and they become convinced by Jesus that every word that they say will come to pass, will this even begin to happen. It makes no difference if any of the so called faith teachers ever achieved this level or not. It does not take away from the absolute truth and integrity of Jesus who taught this law and principal of faith. It is working for everyone. The ones who have known 100% that Jesus did not lie and who agree with Jesus, rather than the negative naysaying unbelievers and their take on it, will see way more positive results, than any of the sceptics. Of course, you see Charles Capps as a false teacher. You never saw your words coming to pass. I chose to trust Jesus and yes several times I spoke and was fully persuaded that what I would say would come to pass and it did. So call me deceived. Call me false. Call Charles false (He don’t care. He is with more prosperous and more healed than ever.) (unless you want to claim Jesus and the Bible to be a lie). Do as you please. You only do it to justify your own belief that faith teachers must be wrong because it did not work or happen for you, the way you thought it should.. Well I am quite content to be deceived in your eyes. I am not deceived in my Father’s eyes or my Lord’s eyes or the eyes of the Living Word of God. The scriptures are quite open and clear and I choose Jesus and His Word, even if it means I have to be considered deceived in your eyes. Jesus has prospered me, healed me, saved me, filled me with Himself, blessed me, delivered me and gave me more love and favor that any human could ever want. His angels watch over me and I have the most powerful and beautiful woman of God for a wife and a really blessed children. I would not change the fruit that I am known by, because some offended bitter internet failure calls me deceived. Keep calling me deceived. Jesus keeps revealing truth to me and we have lots of fun together.
Enjoy your freedom in Christ (the truth sets you free, you know). I am surely enjoying my Jesus. I love Him so much.
Charlie Wax, my blood boiled with a holy anger when Jim Davies said and I quote “Martyrs have zero faith in God delivering them from their executioner”. First the scripture says GOD has dealt to every man the measure of faith, and the very bible Jim Davies quotes from was placed in our hands in part by the very faith in GOD William Tyndale displayed by being burned alive so GODS word would spread throughout the world, the sacrifice Tyndale made has caused millions to know CHRIST!!!
I shudder when I think christians would dare call the sufferings for CHRIST to further the gospel or those who suffer physical disabilities, sickness and disease are showing zero faith to be delivered,..when CHRIST said we are not greater than our master if HE suffered we will suffer too…and HE said in this life you will have trouble it is common to man..The rewards for God’s people are eternal rather than mere earthly blessings, though God may choose to provide material blessings, as well…we are admonished to store up for ourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal… Our greatest and most prized possesion is The LORD JESUS and when we focus our attention on earthly pleasures, health ,wealth, and prosperity we diminish
the ultimate goal to be in the presence of our saviour for eternity and to preach CHRIST crucified to a dying world…I would rather stand with the likes of the apostle Paul, the 12 Disciples, Latimer and Ridley (burned alive Oct 16, 1555) and Tyler Trent (20 year old who died from bone cancer Jan 1, 2019), men whose allegiance to Scripture and the glory of Christ transformed millions of lives, then to sit with fools who have so called faith to move mountains.
To GOD be the glory
Charlie
The Bible and Jesus and my Heavenly Father are not duped. They are my intimate source of truth. They are the ones who produce the Godly Fruit, listed in the Bible, in my life. The religious church Pharisees considered Jesus, deceived, duped or mad. But that didn’t make it true. Nor does your opinion of another man’s life that he is duped do anything. All it does is make you come across as a modern day Pharisee who criticizes those who have Fruit and Freedom in Christ that you don’t have. Insecurely attacking those who inherit the promises of God rather than following them, the way you were commanded to, in Heb 6:12 (I will let you in on a Heavenly secret. When the demon of pride possesses your brain, you become unteachable and everyone who obeys the Bible better than you is obviously duped)
Jim Davies,
I am not trying in anyway to speak to you in a condescending or malicious manner. I read the series of posts; examined both parties within the boundaries of reason, and found your position to be unsustainable and OUTSIDE of the validity of reason. If I sound disrespectful, it is only because the realm of social media and the construct by which we address one another here does not facilitate dialogue that carries the nuances needed for kindness and mutual respect. Forgive me sir.
If a man tells me, as you have Jim, that he has come into a New Covenant with God through the propitiatory sacrifice of His only Son in such a matter as to CONVEY UNTO HIM the same attributes which GOD Himself possesses, specifically His Omnipotence, so as to empower “the CREATURE” to PRE-DETERMINE his fate in life even to the smallest of minutia, this man has quite frankly, lost his cotton-pickin’ mind and leave of his senses so as to bring upon Christianity a laughing scorn and reproach.
Sir, do you not realize that this same deception was sold to Eve in the beginning when Satan convinced her that she could TRANSCEND her finite existence and become like GOD Himself when he said, “You surely will not die! for God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and YOU WILL BE LIKE GOD,…”
Do you not understand that that you are a mere man, a mere and mortal sinner in NEED OF A SAVIOR? In need of something or someone GREATER than you to save you from the consequences of your rebellious life of sin? from the just condemnation of GOD? to translate you from the kingdom of darkness into the joy of His eternal fellowship through Christ?
Sir… Brother and friend, I also was once deceived by these false teachers and wolves; and with the memory of my shame do I speak to you.
You and I are but men made in the image of GOD and subject to all the same frailties and failures of any other human being. We were born in our youthfulness and brought forth in our iniquities. The difference between you and I in this futile life of vanity is that GOD has, in His grace, shown mercy towards us by making known to us our certain death and condemnation. But not leaving us in fear and distress, He made known to us both the means by which we may escape. The means by which we could be reconciled by His merciful grace back to Himself. This escape… this salvation… this hope of expectation, is told to us both in a gospel of reconciliation and love, nothing more… nothing less.
I warn you Brother, just as someone once warned me: turn in repentance away from this accursed gospel and these emissaries of Satan, lest you find that the road that your on is but a portal to hell.
May God’s grace and peace be yours.
Michelle
Zero faith from being delivered from their executioner is not saying that they have zero faith in Jesus as their Lord and Savior or zero love for Jesus. Many people today are victims of senseless murders who are simply fulfilling Hos 4:6 or Prov 29:18 or 1Cor 11: 29-30. Stephen was a martyr who obeyed his assignment. A true martyr is called and equipped by God to carry out that calling. If you don’t know if you are called to be a martyr or not then you are not that intimate and knowing of your Heavenly Father. The Pharisees also believed that their blood boiled with holy anger when they were presented the truth. Just don’t add to what you hear and put your own spin on it. You will never understand truth that way.
Jim Davies,
“Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow WE WILL go to such and such a city, and spend a year there and engage in business and make a profit. Yet YOU DO NOT KNOW what your life will be like tomorrow. YOU ARE JUST A VAPOR that appears for a little while and then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, “IF THE LORD WILLS, we will live and also do this or that.” But as it is, you BOAST IN YOUR ARROGANCE; all such boasting IS EVIL.Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him IT IS SIN.” – James 4: 13-17.
Charlie
I respectfully disagree with you. My whole life is built on the rock, Christ Jesus (the Word) and scriptures in the New Covenant that you must have overlooked. If God created Adam in His image and likeness and then satan came to Adam and told him that he was not like God, and then told all his descendants that they were no good worms. And if the fall of man, made him fall from a high position with God unto a mere mortal and the Old Covenant revealed that to be the nature of fallen man. But then Jesus came and got people reborn and restored them back to the high position with God, and if I found several new Covenant scriptures that proved this to be so, then I would be compelled to believe them and be a doer of them. Act like they were true because they are. If God got me reborn and then told me that He made me His equal, I would probably say that God was out of his flipping mind. But if He said, “No kidding. I really did.” Then I would ask Him to prove it to me, in His Word, with 2 or more scriptures. If God proceeded to teach me His Word, in it’s proper context with scriptures confirming scriptures and no contradictions with the rest of the revealed truth, then I would have a dilemma to either believe God or twist the scriptures so that they did not say what God said they said. (Because it was too good to be true and my religion brain would not accept it). I can always give incontext scriptures to back up anything I say. What I can’t do is give scriptures to back up any crap that you invent about me that I never said. Thus it is important to pay attention and not read between the lines and add something that is not being said. I need to go back and read the rest of your last post before I comment any more. God bless you.
Charlie
I don’t follow any false teachers. If you call Jesus a false teacher or the Holy Spirit or the Word of God (these are the ones who I cling to) false teachers, then I doubt you have ever met my Saviour. I am full of the Word and Jesus and His Blood are my sacrifice for my sins. I have been reborn. I am not who I used to be. The new Creation is the Righteousness of God. Heaven is my eternal home because of my Lord and Savior being sacrificed for me. Do you have a different Saviour than me?
Charlie
You quote to me James 4:13-17 Why don’t you start obeying it? I do and have been for a lot of years now. But I don’t leave out what Jesus said in John 16: 12-13. I get my marching orders from God (the Holy Spirit) by approaching Him in surrender to His Will. My Father has never been shy to show me my future and the things that are to come into my life. Not my will but His be done.
Charlie
Watch closely how the conversation goes. I will sometimes give someone Bible truths without giving out the scriptures. Not because I can’t but because I can quickly locate you and your working knowledge of the promises of God. I don’t speak if I can’t back it up with incontext scripture confirmed by more scripture. But watch how it goes. I will easily use incontext scripture to refute falsely used scripture and no one will have incontext scriptures to disprove what I say. It kind of happens to people who spend 40 years with their Heavenly Father and have learned to die to their own opinion and just say what God says. Either you hunger for the truth or you don’t. I care not about any man’s teachings, including yours. I am too busy seeking the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness, seeking my Jesus and being set free by Him to care whether or not you can walk in what I can walk in. The Father and I both love you and desire that you would obey Him. Especially Heb 6:12. But you have your own free will.
Jim Davies you can back pedal all you want, but you know exactly what you were trying to convey concerning the persecuted, stop already with the nonsense, the more you comment the more your arrogance shows, trust me, your “faith” when your time is up on this earth that GOD HIMSELF has allotted, no matter how deceived you are in your thinking you are equal with HIM, death will ask you to prove it.
Michelle
There is no back pedalling and no arrogance. You enemies of the cross always accuse people who believe the promises, and who believe in the New Birth (New Creation) as arrogant. Why? Because you don’t believe the scriptures does not make the one who does as being arrogant. Every single belief I have, I got, personally, from my Heavenly Father, and He confirmed incontext scripture upon scripture to make it a solid foundation in me. Pride just won’t let you accept that someone different than you could be right.
Michelle
Religious, prideful, Pharisee types never ever can successfully use scripture against the truth. I am still waiting for scriptural proof that “ANYTHING” I said was not easily backed up by incontext scripture. You won’t find it. I was crucified with Christ. I am dead to the world. It is no longer I that liveth but Christ that liveth in me. And that is the Word of God. Deal with it and quit being such an unbeliever of righteousness.
Michelle
Don’t worry about me. Death has tried a few times to knock me off the planet and each time God provided me a way of escape and power over all the power of the devil. The Lord also told me when I would go to Heaven. Death really has a bitch of a time, killing a dead person. My body is the temple of the Holy Ghost. It is no longer I that liveth but Christ that liveth in me. If you were truly born again, you would believe the Words about the New Creation and you would be in agreement with the Truth and I. The reason you don’t believe me is because you don’t believe the Heavenly Father who sent me.
Jim Davies , let me know when your omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient
according to my bible only ALMIGHTY GOD, The LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND HOLY GHOST hold those positions not sinners saved by grace…we are “seated” with CHRIST…don’t get it twisted…but I forgot your reading the book of Charles Capps and false teachers, for references, by your own words you confirm you entertain the same lying spirit…from your earlier comments you praised Charles Capps so called
revealed revelation from heaven, but it actually came from the bottomless pit!!!
“he who has ears let him hear”
I pray others will if you refuse to be set free and delivered
May GOD have mercy.
Michelle M.,
I am sorry that I need to go to work today and everyday being that I have taken a STRANGE liking to Jim Davies’ long and entertaining response to ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IRRELEVANT to him “being like God.” Anyway, do you wonder as I do why a post put up by a Pastor has yet to SAVE ONE OF HIS “CLIENTS” from a fate worse than death – death by a million facts. lol.
Again, this so-called debate ended a long time ago. Like the Rams, Jim Davies is just refusing to leave the field and head to the locker room to hope for a better year next year. lol
Lots of fun….
Michelle M.,
I think I’ve figured out how to better enjoy Jim’s responses and at the same time have a better understanding of what he is trying to say with more clarity… ready?…
here it is -> just simply employ the voice of George Costanza from the Seinfeld comedy series while reading his tsunami of theological acumen and wala!, it all makes sense! “I’m losing Jerry!.. I’m losing it!” Just kidding… ok, maybe I’m not. hehehe….
Michelle
Didn’t you read what I said? I said I can’t defend the crap you make up about me. Never once did I claim or quote any scripture that made me omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. These are the attributes of My Father, in their full development. We are allowed to disagree where Charles Capps got his revelation from. He is not in this debate. I got my revelation from my Father, and He has supported it by incontext scripture confirmed by scripture. He also put Godly Fruit and Godly miracles in my life. I have allowed God to be true and every man (including myself) a liar. You Michelle are still fighting for the right to be right, when God, in His Word commands you to allow yourself to be a liar. (Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.) You have been trapped in satan’s vicious whirlwind of pride where you need to let your own beliefs die, so that God can insert His Beliefs into you. But you, in pride, refuse to humble yourself but keep insisting you are right. You are NOT right. God is right. When you going to figure this out?
Charlie
I appreciate your wit and humor. You would be a good choice to come speak at a birthday or anniversary and be a tasteful and loving roaster to make fun of me, so that all could have a good laugh.
Please receive from God, the infilling and overflowing of the Holy Ghost and Fire, to the point that you begin to speak in other tongues.
I agree with the great Apostle of Faith, Smith Wigglesworth, who said, “How dare anyone attempt to handle the great Holy Oracles of God without first receiving the fullness of the only true teacher, the Holy Ghost.
When you are eager to and daily do, speak in tongues from being overflow filled with the Holy Ghost, then you would be a candidate to teach God’s Word. The internet is not good for you. Come on stage with me, in front of 1500 pastors and live cameras and debate the Word.
On the internet, where you can hide, your wit and reason can always find a way, in your own mind, to satisfy your false beliefs to be true. But, in person, under the spotlight, the true power of God being present, that is how we will gage who you really are.
ps love your Rams analogy….
Charlie
Phillipians 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God
Jesus considered Himself equal with God. I have obeyed verse 5. You haven’t. Enough said about that.
2Peter 1: Jesus our Lord, 3 according as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
I have obeyed this verse and become a partaker of the divine nature and you haven’t. Enough said about that.
John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
I praised God for these Words from Jesus and my Heavenly Father and received my oneness as THEY promised. You didn’t. Enough said about that.
Colossians 2: 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him. I read this. Believed it. Praised and thanked God for it. I received it. You didn’t. Enough said about that.
I am not the Creator. I am not the Designer. It wasn’t my idea to make a Creation duplicate to myself. This was God’s idea and these scriptures outline it. I didn’t believe it at first, But as my ability to trust the Bible began to grow, it became real easy to just simply say “thank you” to God for what He had actually done in getting me reborn. God called us to walk by faith. Just simply believe and obey His Word. Anything beyond that simplicity is sin.
Michelle
Quit making up crap about me and start proving the Bible I quote to be wrong. Or else start letting me correct your misuse of scripture. No one gets help here until the Bible has rebuked us both to the Truth.
Michelle and Charlie
Please have the decency and respect, to the Pastor who wrote this tribute to Charles Capps. When he wrote this, he did not expect to have people come on here and have a crap on the deceased. If you have any of the love of God in you at all, you will honor this request and contact me through private message, messenger facebook at JimLorieAnnDavies. I will not be returning any more of your responses, due to respect for this Pastor. I am not dodging you or running. I told you where I would be.
Hey Charlie Wax , I notice our friend Jim Davies went MIA out of so called respect and decency for the pastor you mentioned earlier in your post, “hello”, he just realized it was a tribute to charles capps, NOT..I mean really…that was what this whole debate was about GODS GOD and charles capps and his dedicated followers are not, and its really hard for them to seperate facts from fiction, I mean Jim Davies really believes he is equal with GOD, even after being shown scripture where GOD himself said HE has no equal its pretty heart breaking the deception runs deep, strong dellusion, reminds me of carlton pearson when he said he prayed and GOD supposedly showed him by scripture homosexuality is ok, and everyones going to heaven no matter what…the church pleaded with him to repent and he wouldnt so they nicely but boldly and firmly told him to his face he was a heretic and they would treat him as such, they were going to continue to pray for him, but called him out straight up on his doctrine of devils…even Kenneth Copeland who says he gets direct messages from GOD (new revelations) pledged his allegiance to the pope, and denounced the reformation, calling it demonic!!! What blasphmey against the HOLY GHOST, I was trying to explain to Jim Davies, Charlie Wax about his “new revelations he said he receives from the “Father” that he backs up by not rightly dividing the word…If people what GOD to reveal himself in a special way, READ YOUR BIBLE, if they want to hear JESUS speak to them READ THEIR BIBLES “OUTLOUD” I know GOD heals, and still performs miracles but Im afraid for him, we need to fast and pray for Jim Davies.. Im going to post a link I was going to share with Jim Davies to try to help him but hopefully someone else will watch it and GOD will set them free, since poor Jim Davies is gone…I also wanted to add I can tell you love our saviour and are a defender of HIS Sovereignity over ALL things, and no one or nothing can compare to HIM…GOD bless you brother
heres the link..on YouTube
https://youtu.be/0ks3EdMMT48
Michelle,
Are you really surprised? This tactic of “ducking and weaving” is ALWAYS employed by those who suddenly realize that their
INTELLECTUAL BANKRUPTCY has been exposed and now revealed to OTHERS who have been reading the dialogue without imputing commentary themselves.
One of the SYMPTOMS associated with those who are ALWAYS making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability is to EVADE ALL AND EVERY initial questions set before him, and then OVERWHELM any criticism of himself and HIS PERSONALIZED THEOLOGY – which you have pointed out so well, and by his own admission, as his OWN special DARK personal revelations – by a sheer volume of words and empty rhetoric. Sophistry is an art form of subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation. If Jim was a Sophist, he would have graduated “most likely NOT to succeed” and would have been appointed among the class known as Charlatans and Quacks.
Jim invited me to debate him in front of 1500 pastors with cameras. You and I known that spiritual sociopaths imagine themselves great in this cyber world of the unverifiable. I would presume that he was more likely speaking of the free range hen house where is fond of speaking just after sunrise so as not to tolerate any dissent from any rooster named after the likes of Martin Luther or Johnathan Edwards. Can’t have that, now can we? Catch me outside!
You Michelle, have went far above the call of duty to snatch this mans soul from the PRECIPICE OF FINAL AND TOTAL DESPAIR. You have presented to him – in very SIMPLE TERMS – in this post, considerations which a Theology 101 or 12-year old would have understood with ease and gratitude. What else could anyone have contributed to the BENEFIT OF THIS MANS SOUL that you did not? “Nothing more!” would sound forth from the Judge of all the earth, “Nothing more!”
Rest with joy and comfort of conscience dear servant of The LORD. GOD has weighed your intentions and rewarded you in that which shall spring forth from the fire of thy works on that Judgement Day.
Tell you what Michelle, I will show you the HYPOCRISY of this man of gluttony and wantonness to be just as I have described him. How you say? I will put $100 in your Paypal account if this man watches and responds in ANY INTELLIGENT MANNER to the video link you added.
HE WILL NOT… AND YOUR VINDICATION WILL BE RESOUNDING!
Good day my lady, and GODspeed.
Charlie Wax
AMEN and AMEN
Charlie Wax , Jim Davies had the nerve to say people were taking a ” crap” on the deceased, well, when somebody (charles capps) preached “crap” like when he stated adam was an exact duplication of GOD!!!
and used the scripture in genesis1: 26 where GOD said ” “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness,” and he put a spin on it saying it was the hebrew word for likeness…which meant exact duplication in kind” so he teaches people like Jim Davies they are equal to GOD!!!
That is pure blasphemy!!! and the sad part is people dont read their bibles and study for themselves they would see clearly, HELLO Adam was not exactly like GOD thats just plain old common sense geeez, but pastors run with this and teach because of JESUS you are now equal with GOD!!! the foolishness, so Id rather ” crap” on this deceased unholy teaching as Jim Davies called it, to stand and defend GOD ALMIGHTY THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTHS HOLINESS.
READ YOUR BIBLES!! READ ALL OF 2 PETER 2
READ…..
Philippians 2:27
1 Timothy 5:23
2 Timothy 4:20
I was raised in dead religion, full of laws and condemnation. if I wouldn’t have had a friend who refused to give up on me, I would be lost in homosexuality still. I was so bewildered when I went to church with her and the ladies would pray for me and have words of knowledge and prophecy over me. I never heard or seen anything like that! I was intrigued I kept going got saved water baptized and baptized in the holy spirit and my entire life changed! I no longer wanted anything evil no drinking, no sexual desires everything i used to do just the thought made me feel physically nauseous. Religion never made me want to love my Lord, I felt obligated to do it, and guilty when I failed. Ohhh but to have a relationship with Jesus!! There is the overwhelming LOVE OF GOD!! He is so good! I pray in the spirit all throughout the day and the things that i never seen how they could come to pass, Do! I was diagnosed with a rare form ovarian cancer 3 years ago the doctor said that I will need surgery chemo and a long road ahead. I would confess healing scriptures before i even opened my eyes in the morning throughout the day and before bed. I took the word like medicine 3 weeks later I had the surgery to remove the cancer and my ovaries and uterus. When the doctor came in to talk to me and my husband he said I don’t have a medical explanation of what has happened to you, but you the tumor has shrunk and if all the blood tests and lab results come back you will not need chemo! Hallelujah!! Jehovah Rapha He is my healer! I have since then have so many miracle testimonies. Gods word is true and He is faithful all His promises are yes and so be it!
I pray that God will reveal himself to all who are lost as He did for me. Being free and recieving Gods grace does not make you want to go sin, it makes you free and helps you walk away from sin. Love is powerful more powerful than any sin, drug, desire, or addiction. Gods perfect love for you in all your flaws mistakes and mess brings you to Him. And you want to serve him and tell others how good and merciful He is!!
I never heard of Charles Capps till a few months ago, I read one of his books and I was like WOW! Holy Spirit has been giving me similar revelations on scripture. What a wonderful man. May his legacy go on and share the good news of salvation in Christ Jesus this wonderful grace and mercy?
Michelle, Jim and Charlie: shame on all of you! I can’t believe that Christians could spew so much hate toward one another! You are supposed to love one another!! Don’t waste you time on these endless debates!! Jesus is coming soon.
“I AM YHVH; I change not!” Malachi 3:6
We just began observing Shabbat on its proper Day 10 years ago, and it has been freeing and Life-changing to share this Day with Father YHVH (Who has been observing it since Week 1 of Creation 6019 years ago) and His Son Yahshua haMashiach, Who obeyed His Father in every detail while He walked the earth as a man, yet was Torah, His Father, the Word made flesh! HalleluYAH ~ And through the years we have been blessed with Charles Capps’ simple, absolute belief in the Word of YHVH which is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword! We are learning that Father in Deed knows best, and that He never lies to us. Not once.
The Word of Faith movement is a cult.
Charles Capps
Capps, like most of the Word of Faith teachers, preaches a different God. Capps’ God is not omnipotent, and as God told Capps, He can only act as we allow:
“You are under an attack of the evil one and I can’t do anything about it. You have bound me by the words of your own mouth.(1)”
What a pathetic god Capps worships. Thank the God of the Bible that He is in control and not subject to our wills. It is not surprising however that Capps’ god is so impotent, for Capps’ God created man equal to himself:
”God duplicated Himself in kind!… Adam was an exact duplication of God’s kind!(2)” http://www.the biblepage.org
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